Cold Chisel is one of the biggest rock bands in Australian history, but despite all their success, many of the members did not initially see it come into their own hands.
One such member was bass guitarist Phil Small, who revealed that after the band broke up in the 1980s, he had to pick up odd jobs to make a living.
"After the band did split, there's a huge void there for everyone," he told the LISTNR Cold Chisel podcast, "I was like, 'What the hell am I going to do now?'"
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"It was like you've just walked out of a big party and slammed the door into a vacant room. Nothing there.
"So I had to go out and get work," he shared, "I got work wherever I could, at one stage I was an offsider on a truck. I worked at St Vincent de Paul.
"One of my longest jobs was with (the record label) Polygram actually, just working in the warehouse. A lot of musicians got work there through word of mouth."
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Small hadn't been earning much from royalties as he had only written a few songs, and touring did not bring in much compared to what people may think.
Tickets would only go for about $10, which adjusted for inflation would be about $40. When considering all the costs of running a tour, including production, paying staff, and splitting the rest between themselves, they weren't left with much at all.
Small recalls sharing a flat with his girlfriend at the time as well as many other housemates. Every time they would stock up the fridge for themselves, they would find it empty within a matter of hours.
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But Small didn't have to struggle on his own for too long, with the band getting back together in 1997 and taking to stages across Australia once again.
The bass guitarist first joined the band in 1975 and has featured on all their albums and shows since.
The latest was in October, when the iconic Aussie band played the first of two sold-out shows at Melbourne's Flemington Racecourse.
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