Holly Madison opened up about the strange dynamic she had with Pamela Anderson during her relationship with Hugh Hefner.
“Interacting with Pam in the beginning was a little awkward,” Holly, 44, said during her and Bridget Marquardt‘s “Girls Next Level” podcast. “It’s not that Pam wasn’t nice. It was just that she would do this weird thing where she’d always come up to Hef wherever she would run into him. She’d fawn all over him and he’s surrounded by all these girls.”
Holly – who dated Hugh from 2001 until 2008 – then claimed that Pamela, 57, “would act like we did not exist on any level in such a weird way.”
“It was so strange to me and the only reason I’m bringing this up is because I remember feeling like it was so strange,” she continued. “I wondered, ‘What is that all about’ and I still kind of wonder because it would change later on. Like she would acknowledge me a little bit toward the very end.”
Despite having weird interactions with Pamela, Holly insisted that she never wanted to start drama with the Baywatch star.
“I’m a fan of hers,” she said. “But oftentimes, when I’m talking about mansion experiences, I’ll talk about meeting people like Paris Hilton and how she was so nice and how she would talk to each of us girls like we were equals.”
The former Playboy bunny went on to wonder why things were always so weird between her and Pamela. “Maybe she was at such a weird level of fame where people always wanted something from her that she shouldn’t feel comfortable talking to people, or maybe she had an experience where she tried to talk to Hef’s girlfriends before and it went really poorly,” Holly speculated. “I don’t know what it was, but it was so distinct and weird.”
Holly then noted that being diagnosed with autism in 2023 has forced her to reevaluate memories from her past.
“I feel like the real interesting thing about this story is just how differently I perceive the behavior now,” she said.”Back in my 20s, if somebody was really rude or standoffish to me, especially consistently, I assumed it was a major problem like they really hated me or that they were the world’s biggest a–hole or something.”
She said that she doesn’t “perceive” situations the same way anymore. “I feel like part of that is just my own journey with discovering that I’m neurodivergent and recognizing my own behaviors and what’s behind that and it affects how I see other people’s behaviors a little differently,” Holly continued.
After she publicly revealed her autism diagnosis, Holly exclusively told In Touch that her fans have been “incredibly supportive.”
“I connect with so many people through social media. As with everything, you get backlash,” she said, adding that some people have misdiagnosed her condition.
Holly also opened up about how she has managed the condition after learning her diagnosis. “Just realizing what’s going on with me has been so helpful. I have a lot of patience with myself,” she said. “I explain it to people if it’s relevant, because sometimes you’re not on the same social wavelength and people take your actions personally when they shouldn’t.”